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Internet Outlaws
17-Nov-08
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We, the leaders of the Group of Twenty...
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Baby P: where are the others?
15-Nov-08
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Imagine that: Government in "making matters worse" shock!
13-Nov-08
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Libertarians: torch bearers for big business?
11-Nov-08
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Repent! For the end of the state is nigh!
03-Nov-08
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Paying for Higher Education
29-Oct-08
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Libertarian Alliance Conference, 2008 (Part II)
28-Oct-08
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Libertarian Alliance Conference, 2008 (part I)
27-Oct-08
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If you speed...
27-Oct-08
...and to ones that made be mad!
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At some points in the programme, particularly when the guards physically beat a person who was obviously autistic or mentally disturbed, I felt sick to the stomach.
However, as the programme ended the truth emerged. It was interesting to see the macho" nature of the Tipton three, one of them saying he was stronger for the experience.
In a similar way to the shoe bomber, these were people with a criminal history when immans and mullahs worked through the prison to recruit them.
We have to look at the programme in perspective. What would you do and how would you deal with the situation? How would you "punish" or "gain intelligence" from the detainees? In every system you need people with the psychology to do these things. Just because you and I viewing the programme feel sick to the stomach, that only means that we could not work at Guantanamo. We could never break these men. If the place had been really bad with torture and so forth then these people would have broken down (and I am sure many have).
For me the bottom line is this. These people born in Pakistan and other such countries moved for economic reasons to the UK in large numbers. The UK allowed them to stay and treated them as indigenous Britons with all the rights (unlike how Germans treated for example the Turks). In return these people demonstrate some silly Danish cartoons with placcards advocating beheadings and violence. In return a great or substantial percentage of them support or sympathize with terrorist activities (many young muslims in Birmingham, Tipton, East Midlands, Yorkshire and all over the UK do). They attack the UK with suicide bombers and blow up and bring down the world trade center, and so what are we to do about this phenomenon that was imported into the UK with the immigration of these people? This is a big problem. It is similar to the problem caused by the immigration of Sicilians to the USA (that problem is called the "mafia"). Immigrants bring another culture and foreign problems and some are very significant such as this extreme religion called Islam."