Totally agree Jock, we have lost so much in our instant gratification, soundbite, microwave, TV age (heavens I sound old!) In all my years as a youth worker I have always believed one of the keys is reconnecting our young people to their communities. In so many places it is as if between the ages of 13 and 19 you are not regarded as part of the community, evidenced by the number of community centres where young people remain unwelcome. As a nation we appear to resent children and young people, thus, getting into the pub is a right of passage as opposed to being a natural place for communities to connect.