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 <description>&lt;p&gt; Following hard on the heels of Chief Constable Fahy, the head of Oxfordshire area&amp;#39;s police, Chief Superinendant Shaun Morley, demonstrates what I have come to expect from Oxfordshire&amp;#39;s top policemen, a more generally liberal attitude whilst being mindful of the harm some people are inflicting on others and their communities with their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/news/tiooxmail/display.var.1628364.0.stop_your_kids_boozing.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;irresponsible actions and attitudes&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; He clearly talks sense, and from experience.  It is utter nonsense to increase the age at which people may buy or consume alcohol.  It&amp;#39;s arbitrary and unfair to those who are able to enjoy a drink responsibly:   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;I am not especially convinced that the answer is to raise the minimum age for drinking alcohol and in general I&amp;#39;m in favour of less regulation, and better self- management.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; But the story highlights a few areas where improvements could be made: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;em&gt;Earlier this month, police also revealed one in ten licenced premises in Oxford sold alcohol to underage teenagers in a undercover operation.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I also read this week I think, but can&amp;#39;t find it now, that there were a tiny number of operators losing their licenses for such things.  68 in a year in England was the figure that sticks in my mind.  Perhaps if we got closer to a zero tolerance approach on sales of alcohol to under-18s people would be more circumspect about who they sell to - none of this namby-pamby fining and so on - let&amp;#39;s go for license revocation first time out and so on.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Also, there needs to be a two-way discussion here - on-license holders need to be more responsible about not selling to people who are already too drunk.  Many&amp;#39;s a time here at halls when after closing time I have found people asleep or comatose in the middle of the road who should probably not have been sold another drink several hours previously.  That said, I can&amp;#39;t get too sanctimonious, as I for one have certainly had too much on occasion.  Though I never get violent, drunk or not - I might start jibbering more than usual and then fall asleep midway through a sentence! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Also, dear to my heart, he singles out students: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;We certainly need a significant change in attitudes to alcohol, especially in the 18 to 24 age group, including students where wholly inappropriate behaviour fuelled by excess alcohol consumption is seen as acceptable by many of that peer group.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I have this pet theory that for &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; local residents, one of the problems is the demise of the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; in favour of an array of drinking sheds in city and town centres.  Of course these came about as a way of making the throughput of alcohol sales more efficient for the brewers.  But what they mean is that particularly for young people, they no longer learn to drink in the relatively safe surroundings of a local pub in a village or estate, where they have the friendly eye of a landlord who hopes and expects to see them again soon, and neighbours, friends and family  who can take them to one side and point out when they are becoming a nuisance or worse.  If that is true for people with their roots in a particular city it is even more of a challenge for our student residents. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Here at Brookes we are just about to initiate a discussion internally about enhancing the role of wardens in halls of residence such as myself, and I will be bringing this up as part of that.  A couple of years ago many were scathing about the comments of the Vice-Chancellor at Brunel suggesting that universities had a parental type duty to teach social skills and personal responsibility to their students and, I have to say that over the past couple of years in particular when license times have been extended in Oxford and people roll into halls leery and noisy at all hours, I am beginning to agree. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; I&amp;#39;m not a confrontational person so it would be a challenge to me to face up to some of the drunks that tear about the place after closing time, but I think we probably have to face up to doing that.  We have a university disciplinary charge of &amp;quot;bringing the university into disrepute&amp;quot; which I suspect could be used here.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; When I was done for driving under the influence fifteen years ago the police had to deliver me home to ensure that someone recognized me at the address I had given them.  I wonder if the same applies to people who are arrested for alcohol related offenses in town?  If so, perhaps wardens and college authorities should be the ones asked to vouch for such people when they are delivered back to university accommodations.  If we had that heads up we could take action to show them that the university does not approve of our students bringing the university into disrepute by their actions out on the town at night. &lt;/p&gt;
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