Jock's Place - conference - Comments

All sound okay...just some

Jock — Tue, 20 May 2008 15:34:43 +0000

All sound okay...just some comments though:

1. I did want to get across the fact that "we" can get Liberal things implemented even when not in power, or anywhere near it!

3. I took "ownership for all" directly from a recent paper by an IPPR type at Oxford on exactly this set of policies of post war Liberals, and I thought it was actually what it was called but will check when I get home.

8. I've had an alternative suggestion that I should just have "fully embrace". The purpose of putting in "rediscover" is that we sometimes suspect that they don't actually know the very good unimplemented policies from our past and they will do well to buy our book to rediscover them...:) But I think it can come out - it implies that if you don't know what they are you should go find out.

Are you a conference rep? Or an inveterate conference hack? If the former, are you going to "sign" it subject to those amendments - none of which change the sense but tighten up the wording.

Cheers,

Jock

Why use one clause when ten will do

Tom Papworth — Tue, 20 May 2008 12:30:48 +0000

Good work, Jock!

A few points:

1) Ditch the sentence ", even if not always implemented by Liberal governments" (never, EVER, give credit where credit is due :o)

2) Change "corporate welfarism" to "corporate welfare"

3) Is there a better phrase than "ownership for all"? Is "Worker ownership" or some such phrase not more often used?

4) Change "capital assets they help to create" to "capital assets they helped to create"

5) Delete "that the problems of poverty are most likely to be defeated" as this does not actually fit at the end of this paragraph

6) Change "appear to be as intractable as ever" to "have not been resolved after a century of Conservative and Labour policies

7) Delete "socialist and class warfare or corporate welfare and protectionist" as this repeats something above

8) Change "policy makers to rediscover if necessary and embrace the still very relevant ideas" to "policy makers to incorporate the still relevant ideas"

9) change "work towards the completion of the "work in progress" begun by the Asquith's " with "complete the work begun by Asquith's"

Tom

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Joe Taylor — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:46:12 +0000

vi. (...insert further clauses for pet Whitehall functions that could be localized here...)

Transport! I'm heartily sick of inane quangos like the South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive, which seemingly serve only to insulate politicians from the stupid decisions they make on public transport. Let's have that back too. ;-)

Btw - excellent motion Jock.