School dinners
at 08:29
On one of the last Daily Politics of last "season" they had Ken Clarke and a couple of others talking about school dinners. The whole issue is back on the menu this week as we hear of parents delivering non-school dinners to their children in schools to get round the supposedly more healthy food on offer inside.
The thing that struck me about Ken Clarke's argument was that he said "we must allow choice" in school dinners. That it would be wrong to impose a healthy diet essentially to the exclusionon of other less healthy choices that the kids voted for with their taste-buds.
Well, I cannot remember ever having a choice at school (and I had three meals a day there until I was eighteen). And I'm pretty damned sure that Ken Clarke's grammar school twenty and more years before mine would not have offered a choice. I am sure we had one dish, or a plated salad if ordered, or a specific and usually unappetising looking thing if you had a registered special dietary requirement (and in all that time I don't remember one person being adversely affected by the seeming plethora of allergies we hear of nowadays).
I realise that nowadays there are more kids allowed to decide for themselves not to eat meat and so on, and sure, they should be catered for. But what's the problem with one vegetarian and one meat based choice and that's it? Since when did eight year olds understand what was good for them enough to be offered some range of different foods every day?
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If there are logistical problems fair enough (incidentally why do they need an afternoon break - they all seem to go home round here at about 14.50!).
It was really a hook on which to hang a comment about what Ken Clarke said a couple of months ago.
Do we need to offer a choice, apart from where necessary for medical or possibly religious reasons, though I see no problem in making everything Halal or Kosher in a majority Muslim or Jewish school and still not offering much of a choice.
It was pretty clear listening to one of the Rotherham parents on the radio that they have been misrepresented. As Ian says it was not really a case of delivering them fish and chips as a reaction to healthy meals but that the system in the school didn't seem to be working.
I think there needs to be a ditinction between primary and secondary. At primary schools children do not need a big choice - and probably don't get one at home - and the scale is smaller so that the staff can get to know the children and their tastes.
We have just started our younger two (both vegetarians) on school dinners because the menu is now much healthier and because the school staff are clearly taking it seriously and look after the children's needs well.
At secondary level I did get a choice - and probably consumed rather too many lunches of burger and chips as a result. I think it is reasonable that as children get older they are given more choice - but there is no reason why it can't be from a healthy range.
And Jock, don't underestimate the frequency with which very young children get hungry. Emma is on a growth spurt at the moment and can go from being 'full' at the end of a meal to 'starving' again within the space of about an hour!!
The Rotheram parents' actions need more scrutiny: further research indicates that the lunch hour and normal am & pm breaks have been replaced by 3 x 30 min breaks. The complaints are that these result in long queues and that the quality of the cooking is poor.
Local evidence is that in some cases the move to better nutrition has not been backed up by staff training. The result can be pretty inedible.
The best test to see if this is happening is to look at how many teachers and TAs are having school dinners and see how this has changed since the introduction of a healthy" menu"
Three school meals a day plus a bath bun at four pm at prep school (not senior) didn't exactly stunt my growth...:)
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...it did put me off bath buns though...:)