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At last, someone with a bit more &lt;a href=&quot;http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5258295.ece&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;radical idea&lt;/a&gt; about the sort of thing that needs to come out of this banking crisis. Colin Breed, Lib Dem MP for Cornwall, and a former banker himself, is calling for a radical shift to more local banking.
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I still think &lt;a href=&quot;/say_hello_community_finance_partnership&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;my idea&lt;/a&gt; is better and more radical, and have fired off an email to try and make contact with Colin.
 &lt;span class=&#039;read-more&#039;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jockcoats.org.uk/colin_breed_subvert_banking_system&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;&amp;raquo;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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...a society made up almost entirely of mendacious megalomaniacal psychopaths, &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7731741.stm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;do declare&lt;/a&gt; that the causes of the current economic crisis are basically nothing to do with us:
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&lt;em&gt;3. During a period of strong global growth, growing capital flows, and prolonged stability earlier this decade, market participants sought higher yields without an adequate appreciation of the risks and failed to exercise proper due diligence. At the same time, weak underwriting standards, unsound risk management practices, increasingly complex and opaque financial products, and consequent excessive leverage combined to create vulnerabilities in the system. Policy-makers, regulators and supervisors, in some advanced countries, did not adequately appreciate and address the risks building up in financial markets, keep pace with financial innovation, or take into account the systemic ramifications of domestic regulatory actions.&lt;/em&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;4. Major underlying factors to the current situation were, among others, inconsistent and insufficiently coordinated macroeconomic policies, inadequate structural reforms, which led to unsustainable global macroeconomic outcomes. These developments, together, contributed to excesses and ultimately resulted in severe market disruption.&lt;/em&gt;
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God it makes me sick. &lt;a href=&quot;/ministerial_mendacity&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Lying miserable tossers&lt;/a&gt;. Understand &lt;a href=&quot;/biggest_frauds_go_unpunished_and_we_are_all_victims&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;this well&lt;/a&gt;. Maintaining low interest rates, in order to get more people borrowing more to put into a land price bubble which would enable others to borrow to spend our way out of a mini-recession at the beginning of the century was &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2377729.ece&quot;&gt;DELIBERATE PUBLIC POLICY&lt;/a&gt;. Deliberate public policy the effects of which were to make the &lt;a href=&quot;/neither_borrower_nor_lender_be&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;poorest and weakest&lt;/a&gt; in society attempt to take on unacceptable levels of debt and risk just to prevent themselves from being ripped off even more in the future.
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Not only that, but they knew at the time it would lead to problems later (Eddie George said: &amp;quot;My legacy to the MPC, if you like, has been &amp;#39;sort that out&amp;#39;,&amp;quot;). They simply hoped their successors could get us out of those problems. I think we should take their prescriptions for recovery with all the salt in the world&amp;#39;s oceans.
 &lt;span class=&#039;read-more&#039;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jockcoats.org.uk/we_leaders_group_twenty&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;&amp;raquo;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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A week or so ago Mike Killingworth challenged us on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/12/loveable-banking/&quot;&gt;Liberal Conspiracy&lt;/a&gt; to show what &amp;quot;Lovable Banking&amp;quot; might look like in response to the daily emerging news that we&amp;#39;ve been shafted regularly by the banking system since, oh, at least 1695. Some of you will know that I have long taken an interest in things like local currencies and mutual finance and perhaps also that I&amp;#39;ve been looking into the use of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencapital.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Limited Liability Partnership&lt;/a&gt; structure as a way of building multi-stakeholder less toxic alternatives to purist shareholder capitalism.
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Well a couple of weeks ago I was contacted out of the blue by a chap, Frank Churchill, also in Oxfordshire, who has been looking at similar structures. In his case originally I think as a less toxic alternative to developing world microcredit systems (did you know that the effective interest rate including all charges and so on on Grameen or Kiva micro loans can get as high as 80%!) and as a way of monetizing voluntary work - mainly involving carers. We&amp;#39;ve both been steadily battling along on our own on this, trying to understand the structures and build solutions to common issues around them - in my case, mostly things like affordable housing and supporting local businesses.
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And so we&amp;#39;ve got together and are, hopefully, on the verge of setting up a &amp;quot;think and do tank&amp;quot; (to coin a strap line from another - less popular amongst liberal economics followers - organization, the New Economics Foundation; but don&amp;#39;t let that put you off - some of the issues are the same but we believe the responses are more mutual and liberals than theirs) in the form of a &amp;quot;Community Finance Partnership&amp;quot;.
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The Limited Liability Partnership structure was created, ironically perhaps, to get the professional firms such as accountants and lawyers out of being personally liable for the debts of their partnerships - the vast accountancy partnerships in particular were worried about the sort of &amp;quot;Enron scenario&amp;quot; of being held liable for multi-million pound lawsuits and were threatening to move their registered offices away from the UK if we didn&amp;#39;t give them limited liability. But inadvertently they have created a beautifully simple mechanism for bringing all the parties to an enterprise - the providers of capital, landlords, customers, workers and suppliers and so on - in, if they wish, to share in the risks and the rewards of pooling their contributions to the success of that business as partners.
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A partnership agreement can involve different classes of partner receiving different shares of the profits depending on the worth of their input to it - just as a co-operative structure does. Companies may be partners, or even other LLPs as well as individuals. And the partnership itself is tax transparent so each partner is responsible for accounting for the profit or loss in their own tax affairs. Some of you will be aware that I think limited liability in general is a Bad Thing that takes the personal responsibility away from business owners, but in this case it matters very little since every connection with the business could become a partner and share that responsibility explicitly.
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The Community Finance Partnership can we believe fulfill a great number of roles, offering a portfolio of products for consumers and a steady return based on those to investors - the aim is to produce an index-linked rate of return in the form of a &amp;quot;rent payment&amp;quot; for the use of the capital partners&amp;#39; (investors) funds. &amp;quot;Customer partner&amp;quot; products might include interest free mortgages - called Property Investment Partnerships, personal loans such as with Credit Unions and business finance &amp;quot;repaid&amp;quot; through a portion of the successful businesses&amp;#39; turnover.
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One &amp;quot;flagship&amp;quot; product we are hoping to develop is the idea of a local complementary currency, probably in the form of a Nectar-like loyalty card system that businesses with a base in the geographical area can buy into and which would be able to monetize currently unpaid work like volunteer carers whose value to the local community and especially health services is enormous. The possibilities are almost limitless. For example another idea would be to finance the equivalent of PFI schemes - for example if Oxfordshire County Council wants to rebuild some schools, but with local investors sharing in the reward. And such a structure could be used to provide the mutual finance system for universities I mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;/degrees_mutualism&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;earlier today&lt;/a&gt;.
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Think a cross between a loyalty card system, a credit union (more on the US or Irish style than the British), a mutual building society but with the ability to lend to business and not just on homes, and possibly a friendly society offering local mutual insurance and pension products. It&amp;#39;s early days yet, and we&amp;#39;re still working up what each product would look like in financial terms and the sort of prospectus we&amp;#39;d be able to offer investors, but I&amp;#39;m very excited about it! We think the time is ripe for a return to more human scale financial institutions that people can become a part of on a local more human scale.
 &lt;span class=&#039;read-more&#039;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jockcoats.org.uk/say_hello_community_finance_partnership&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;&amp;raquo;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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...but strangely intensely exciting at the same time?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m just watching the news on Channel 4 and they&amp;#39;ve got all this coverage of the squirming going on in Washington and Wall Street.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it just me or am I right in the impression that Privilege and Power is absolutely terrified at the moment? That &amp;quot;they&amp;quot; really believe things are on the edge of a precipice which threatens systemic melt-down or revolution?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And also that there is a real massive popular movement going on to get the message across to &amp;quot;the Hill&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;they&amp;quot; will not be forgiven for allowing &amp;quot;our&amp;quot; money to pay Goldman Sachs bonuses.
 &lt;span class=&#039;read-more&#039;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jockcoats.org.uk/isnt_just_little_bit_scary&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;&amp;raquo;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Three hundred years of lies, confidence tricks and outright fraud...</title>
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...and we still don&amp;#39;t seem to know what to do about bankers!
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The Bank of Scotland, whatever is now left of it, is 312 years old. That of England just two years older. Ever since the banking system has been built on state protectionism, corporate welfare, monopoly privilege and, at its heart, a gigantic fraud.
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The fraud was that a goldsmith could give both &lt;strong&gt;you&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;and I&lt;/strong&gt; receipts for &lt;strong&gt;my&lt;/strong&gt; gold stored in his vaults and make money on both - from me a fee for keeping my gold, from you interest on the receipt you had borrowed from him. Indeed they found they could duplicate this so frequently, fraud upon fraud if you like, that though gold is perhaps regrettably no longer the basis of our money, the &amp;quot;hardest money&amp;quot;, real &amp;quot;hard cash&amp;quot;, amounts now to just three per cent of our total money supply in terms of everything we all have collectively borrowed and deposited.
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To be fair, most goldsmiths at least issued notes of their own. Customers - both depositors and borrowers - chose which goldsmith to bank with on their reputation. If they became overstretched, issued what was felt to be too many receipts for the same gold, their notes would be less desirable in trade, there may even be a &amp;quot;run&amp;quot; when all the receipt holders tried to get their &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; money, the gold, out of the bank, which of course had much less gold than he had issued such receipts for. Nowadays, however, what they create and destroy in their lending business is denominated in the national currency, a currency issued nominally at least, by the state and guaranteed by the state.
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This means it is no longer a private affair between a bank and its customers as to whether their business practices jeopardise their customers&amp;#39; savings; it is a problem for us all. We have ceded control of the supply of money issued in our name to private businesses whose main aim is to make profit for themselves and who, in the course of that otherwise noble pursuit, play fast and loose with the very air the entire economic system requires to function. And states protect them, bail them out as seems about to be the case in the US to the tune of almost countless billions, because they have to guarantee the currency they have so little control over.
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Regular readers will know I am very fond of a quotation from Josiah Stamp, Liberal politican, Chairman of the Midland Bank in the 1920s and reputedly second wealthiest man in Britain in his lifetime:
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&amp;quot;Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again.
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&amp;quot;However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits.&amp;quot;
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It rather seems to me that with the events of the past few days, we may be &amp;quot;taking the earth away from them&amp;quot; (or, more accurately and nauseatingly, buying it back from them) which they have stolen from us with their inflationary approach to money, but leaving them the power to create those deposits all over again with which, in the next bubble, they will buy it all back again.
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Everyone seems to think that money has somehow been pretty constant. The way it works I mean, not whether we call it shillings and guineas or pounds and pence. But the current confidence trick really began with the depression of the 1930s and the work of two extremely wealthy, powerful men in the US who persuaded the government of their day to set up the system that enabled them to create &amp;quot;our&amp;quot; money according to their corporate priorities. The results of John D Rockerfeller and John P Morgan Jnrs&amp;#39; work was the Federal Reserve and the rapid ramping up of fractional reserve banking, and the eventual demise of real solid backing for that currency.
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If the current crisis really does turn out to be the &amp;quot;big crunch&amp;quot; at the end of the cycle begun by that 1930s &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; we should be ready with policy to replace that fraudulent, anti-competitive, oligarchical system, designed by the very wealthy to keep them that way for little actual productive work with something different. Entirely different. I do not detect any mainstream politicians with the cojones to say so. Our governments and politicians are but eunuchs to the bankers, and the longer that continues, the more the vast majority of us will suffer.
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Following on the theme from my post this morning about how we could &lt;a href=&quot;/how_should_our_details_be_protected&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;protect data about us held by agencies of the state&lt;/a&gt; by using a sort of a personal key and PIN like your bank&amp;#39;s call centre has to validate with you before they can access your data, my mind wandered onto other uses for such a key.
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It has been a &lt;a href=&quot;/daves_uncreative_conservative_futurology&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;recurring&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/futures_free_or_very_very_bleak_indeed&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;theme&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/challenge_unmet&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;in this blog&lt;/a&gt; that the &lt;a href=&quot;/internet_futurology&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;internet&lt;/a&gt; in particular and modern communications in general represent a great threat to the balance of power between states (and incidentally also global &amp;quot;intermediary&amp;quot; corporations) and their citizens. I say threat, but it&amp;#39;s only a threat if you are in a position of power in a state or corporation seeking to continue to exert control over your citizens. Indeed, for the individual, it is the &lt;a href=&quot;/revolutionary_liberalism_2_reinventing_state&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;greatest potential opportunity&lt;/a&gt;, and the vehicle by which Richard Cobden&amp;#39;s quote at the top of this blog&amp;#39;s front page may become reality: &amp;quot;Peace will come to earth when the people have more to do with each other and governments less.&amp;quot;
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Many of our institutions - governments, trans-national corporations, even currency - evolved to deal with issues of trust between people who would likely never have personal contact with each other in ever more remote markets. When trading, you&amp;#39;ve got to be able to trust that you will be paid for example - one person&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;IOU&amp;quot; is not as good a guarantee as piece of paper endorsed collectively by an entire state - a national currency.
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But we have an ever increasing range of other innovations to help us trust each other; developments that are increasing quickly with the advance of the internet. We can access our credit files, we can buy digital certificates that help give others confidence to trade with us over the web because they guarantee we are who we say we are and so on. So why not shift these into the &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot;.
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Why do we actually need, say, a passport to travel across borders, issued by a nation state, when we could have just as secure a guarantee of who we are through some kind of personal digital certificate from an organization bearing the risk, with strong encryption embedded in it? The British government keeps trying to sweeten its totalitarian ID card scheme by telling us, amongst other things, that it will make proving our identity to others in all sorts of transactions much easier. But in fact the history of government involvement in protecting the source data of those identities is appalling, and, as the technology gets more pervasive it seems to be getting worse.
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How much confidence can you have in a government issued identity mechanism when so much data has gone missing already? Those identities are, thanks to state incompetence, all but worthless. Of course that&amp;#39;s why, partly at least, they want to take biometric data. But in computer security it is generally accepted that being able to produce &amp;quot;something you have&amp;quot; (say a credit card or internet digital certificate) and &amp;quot;something you know&amp;quot; - a password, PIN, or private digital encryption key is far better than ony one or other of these pieces of information on its own. So far as I can see the ID card system, or the passport, with or without a national identity register, does not fulfill both of these - only the former. It is inherently weaker than the commercially available alternatives.
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So, why not replace the need for passports issued by a state with identity mechanisms authenticated by trusted corporate or social organizations for whom financial success or failure rests on people being able to trust the people they certify. So you could have a personal account with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thawte.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Thawte&lt;/a&gt; as the primary guarantor, for example, and that certificate could be counter-signed by a certificate from other organizations, such as governments, who want to &amp;quot;mark your card&amp;quot; as one of their citizens, granting you the protections normally written on a passport.
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It&amp;#39;s not easy to get some of these certification authorities to guarantee your bona fides. You need often as much verification as you do to get a passport with other trusted people verifying who you are and so on. But you would not need to give these data to the poroous security mechanisms of the state which has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that they cannot keep the information secure, nor does it offer the other benefit of a private contract - the ability to sue the ass off them if they damage your reputation or security by losing your data - or the corporate incentive of only being able to make a profit if you actually deliver on what people expect of you.
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And you also get a choice of how strong you want the certification to be. If it&amp;#39;s only guaranteeing small personal trades for example, you may only need to spend a few pounds and fill in a quick web form, validate your address and you&amp;#39;re in business. If you want to travel overseas, or deal in bigger sums, or trade with distant counterparties, you may want stronger levels of guarantee and pay accordingly. It&amp;#39;s a global standard pretty well too. So you&amp;#39;d have no problems using it to prove your identity in all sorts of applications - travel, trade, opening a bank account, starting a company, getting insurance, benefits, accessing what little data about you the state actually needs and so on - none of which would need to be on any single central database owned by a bunch of data-incontinents like the government is proving to be with the attendant dangers of losing all your data at once.
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So, you see, we no longer even need governments to help us prove who we are. And in fact they appear to be singularly bad at doing so. The threat inherent in this is that the currently all powerful state needs to be able to do this, or it loses control of its citizens. And they are shit scared of that. If we are not mindful, in their lust to maintain that power they will get immensely more authoritarian and intrusive. The time is coming when we will no longer need them. We must do all we can to hasten that day before they get their claws in too deep into these emerging trust mechanisms.
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Again, I&amp;#39;m starting a new post to respond to some very interesting comments by Tim Carpenter.  My inept attempt at a Drupal template means it&amp;#39;s almost possible to follow a thread of comments and especially given this is going to be another long response I think it deserves an airing on its own.
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For anyone coming new to this debate, it follows on from my original &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/unconditional_benefits_now_time_smash_cosy_consensus&quot;&gt;three point plan&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; for equity and economic justice and some &lt;a href=&quot;/response_some_comments_unconditional_benefits&quot;&gt;clarifications and responses&lt;/a&gt; I gave yesterday to comments on that original by &lt;a href=&quot;http://lpuk.org/pages/libertarian-party/leadership.php&quot;&gt;Tim Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;, Head of Policy at the Libertarian Party UK.
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Tim, thanks for taking the time to respond.  However I think we are, as a colleague used to say to me &amp;quot;talking past each one another&amp;quot;.  &lt;a href=&quot;/response_some_comments_unconditional_benefits#comment-2250&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Paul Lockett has put it all a deal more eloquently than myself&lt;/a&gt; , and for that, and if I have caused any confusion, apologies.
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I am a geo-libertarian (of the &amp;quot;geo-mutualist&amp;quot; variety if you will).  The main thing you seem not to have appreciated is that in calling for the &amp;quot;Single Tax&amp;quot; I mean just that - the community/state can only take economic rent on the land resources within its jurisdiction and has no call on incomes or trade.  As I understand it this is the &amp;quot;purist Georgist&amp;quot; position.
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The ideal &amp;#39;state&amp;#39; would be limited to collecting the rent and distributing it all as a dividend to citizens for the reasons Paul outlined.  &amp;quot;Commonwealth&amp;quot; - you are right, it&amp;#39;s lazy, I should put a space between &amp;quot;common&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;wealth&amp;quot;!  Economic rent from the finite natural resources we all require to share is &amp;quot;common wealth&amp;quot; and should be collected as such and distributed as fully as possible whilst every other tax is a tariff.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim: &lt;/strong&gt; &amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;1. When I say who defines the value of your land, you say &amp;quot;why does anyone need to decide&amp;quot;, yet immediately go on to talk about collecting the tax! Someone DOES decide the taxable value and that affects the actual value. Can you not see that?&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;
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No, the market sets a location&amp;#39;s value.  It does it all the time at the moment.  And it will continue to do so in an LVT system.  Even in a &amp;quot;100% LVT&amp;quot; system.  If a location is appreciating in value, buyers will be prepared to pay a premium over last year&amp;#39;s rent bill and vice versa, in a falling market sellers will effectively have to be prepared to pay someone to take the rent bill off them.  The following year&amp;#39;s rent bill will reflect that premium or discount by going up or down respectively.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim: &lt;/strong&gt; &amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;2. As you should know, we aim to eradicate income tax., so the comparison does not hold.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;
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See above - I&amp;#39;m a single taxer.  No income tax here either.  It is a tariff on employment and trade.  Though I would say that if a local community decided mutually to have a local tax on incomes or sales to finance some mutually agreed local project it would be doing so in competition with neighbouring communities that perhaps were not or were charging a different rate or a different tax.  Tax competition is good, in itself, isn&amp;#39;t it?  Also I am aware of some &amp;quot;single&amp;quot; taxers who would justify retaining some income tax at least temporarily in order to try to address the &amp;quot;embedded&amp;quot; historical advantages of monopoly ownership.  I don&amp;#39;t.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim:  &lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;The problem comes when some local area under the influence of whomsoever, adjusts taxation on land they wish to gain access to because a new development is coming. So, building a road, whack up the value of land next to it. Farmer has no CAPITAL to develop it, so has to sell it for a knock-down price because he HAS to sell to meet the tax bill. If this does not concentrate land into a few hands, I do no know what would. This is just one example of the potential risks.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;
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This appears to be &lt;a href=&quot;/glasgow_east_blasted_past&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Churchill&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;market gardener&amp;quot; bogey&lt;/a&gt;, or, to others, the &amp;quot;poor widow&amp;quot; bogey.  If you look at it under the current system, that same farmer, in similar circumstances is perfectly able, regardless of the squalor growing around, to sit on that land, not paying anything and watch its value &amp;quot;ripen&amp;quot; until the value, created merely by excluding others from what they need to use, is so great it becomes irrational not to sell.  That process is outright extortion.
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In fact, under an LVT system, land values at the margin would tend to move much more incrementally in any case.  In the absence of other restrictions - zoning, green belts etc (it is your policy to remove those restrictions once an LVT system proves practical isn&amp;#39;t it?) - you would not get these large leaps in hope value.  I would actually retain green belts and such like for a while after LVT was implemented so that it can have its greatest effect in turning existing urban land to its most efficient use before going for sprawl.  But I am prepared to be convinced on that.  After all, we know that at relatively low densities compared with what planning guidance seeks nowadays, it would take up less than three quarters of one per cent of the non urbanized land in England to build the three million new homes predicted to be necessary over the next twenty years.
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But once a point of equilibrium was reached between supply and demand rents at the margins of production would move slowly and via the democratic influence of the market.  If that market and the community that makes up its participants eventually get as far as that farmer&amp;#39;s land and all that remains to bring it in from the margin to profitable development is to develop a road, the farmer will have had plenty of opportunity to see it coming long before the tax bill becomes an issue for him.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim:  &lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;3. Living costs - if you have CBI as described you would still keep the most expensive parts of the Welfare bureaucracy - the entire means-testing apparatus. Housing benefit would probably remain in all but name.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;
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I disagree.  But I don&amp;#39;t think what you understand me to have described is what I think I have!  ie, in particular, that I am not paying for CBI out of income taxes, but out of the community collected rent on economic land.  Land at the margins tends as I said towards a nil value.  More people will be able to own their home because they will not be borrowing twice as much as the value of the capital good (the building) in order to pay the land value in up front capital.  Renting a basic home at the margins ought to be achievable out of the Citizens Income.
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With so many pulled out of poverty anyway by not having punitive benefits withdrawal regimes that reduce the marginal value of doing even the smallest amount of paid work and by the reduced costs of living owing to tariff eradication and the better off keeping more of their own money, the capacity of private charity or local mutualism to assist the much smaller number of people that would be needing top up hand outs above their CBI would be much increased.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim:  &lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;4. Income. You need to clarify here - are you saying that COMPANIES have 40% more or that wage earners do? Be under no illusions, if you have CBI, income tax will be enormous. I worked out once that if we went for CBI with no other tax changes but a cull of QANGOs, income tax would need to be about 64% flat from the very first penny (IT is currently £140bln, 7k x 50m = £350bln pa). A HUGE disincentive to working especially at the lower end. Result: black economy, unproductive citizens, more companies shutting down and a growth in imports (and do not say &amp;quot;cheap imports make us richer&amp;quot; because that only holds if we are simultaneously exporting a greater amount of higher value exports)&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;quot;
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I hope you&amp;#39;ll agree that that objection is moot given I am not talking about income taxes at all.  My calculation of the CBI cost at £5200 pa for adults and a decreasing proportion for under-18s to 20% for 2 year olds is around £285bn.  £245bn if only the adults.  I reckon there was about £200bn a year&amp;#39;s worth of economic rent in residential land alone at the recent peak of the market.  I don&amp;#39;t think it is beyond belief that there&amp;#39;s another £85bn in commercial, industrial, retail and, possibly, agricultural economic rents.
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&lt;strong&gt;Tim:  &lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;5. Movement to low tax areas: A company will consider workforce supply as a prime consideration, not just rental costs. If that were not the case, expensive London would be empty. People pay top dollar for London rents because of a massive pool of labour - they can gain access to many cheap or more chance of snaring the best. To think LVT would make a company move out to a depressed area? Those places are already cheap. Why doesn&amp;#39;t it happen now? Limited skilled labour pool. As you say the Government does it now and did it in the past (remember the Hillman Imp?) and it creates quasi-soviets. If LVT has an influence, it might IMHO move a few companies, deter some from even setting up where they need to and the rest of the companies will be bled paying higher rates just to keep near the labour pool they require. In the case of London, the move will be to New York or Hong Kong and we all lose out.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;
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There are so many issues in this paragraph I can only assume again that I have failed adequately to have explained my position.  At the moment businesses pay rents, yes?  In an LVT system they will still pay rents.  The only difference is that whereas currently the entire rent, that which accrues to both the building and the site or location goes to the current landowner, ie it is enclosed, privatized.  Under an LVT system, the same rent is due (assuming they were paying the market rent originally), only the portion of it that accrues to the location goes to the community and that attributable to the building to the building owner.  There&amp;#39;s no corporation taxes, no more employee taxes.  There&amp;#39;s no increasing of rent or rates; there&amp;#39;s no bleeding anyone.  Except those, as landowners, who have bled the rest of us for centuries.
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Areas of low land value will also be areas in which it is cheaper for employees to live (lower LVT for them too).  For a business operating at the edge of profit it would seem to me to be quite an attractive move.  But one that remains in London because their key skills are there is not penalised by that.  Indeed, if sufficient other businesses do it who do not need to be in London for optimal profitability do move, costs will also likely fall for those left behind, increasing their profit, distributable to capital and labour.
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I think there is, in particular, one form of LVT that could have a significant effect in this regard...the auctioning of air-space, via &amp;quot;landing slots&amp;quot; at airports.  Making more efficient use of regional airports would draw business into those areas.  I&amp;#39;m likely to propose this to our regional conference this autumn as part of an &amp;quot;anti third runway at Heathrow&amp;quot; motion.  Interesting choices of examples though - Hong Kong of course is famous for having state owned land - everything except the Anglican Cathedral is leasehold and that has been used to raise revenue in a form of LVT and keep income taxes low.  Modern valuation tracking and billing systems would make that far more efficient and not prone to some of the problems Hong Kong suffered by having too infrequent valuations.
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In China before Mao took over, I understand that Chiang Kai Chek&amp;#39;s regime looked into LVT as a way of staving off the rise of Mao&amp;#39;s totalitarian collectivism.  And in the former Soviet Union, Gorbachev I believe looked into LVT as a way of capturing the value of natural resources and in not implementing it allowed the so called &amp;quot;oligarchs&amp;quot; (really &amp;quot;kleptocrats&amp;quot; in my opinion) to enclose the revenue from that vast pool of common wealth.
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I&amp;#39;m getting a bit tired here!  I&amp;#39;m going to call it quite at this point and maybe think some more about the issue of mutualism.  I think Paul answered the point about the &amp;quot;state as landlord&amp;quot; objections quite satisfactorily and there&amp;#39;s no need for me to repeat it.  But for fairness, other readers can read &lt;a href=&quot;/response_some_comments_unconditional_benefits#comment-2249&quot;&gt;Tim&amp;#39;s further points&lt;/a&gt; in the comments on the previous post.
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Tim:  &amp;quot;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #004080&quot;&gt;p.s. your page has a script that my browser asks me to kill due to risk of resource hogging.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;
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Yes - I only notice this on older machines or slower network connections - I never experience the problem at home or at work.  I think it must have been an advertising panel I have just removed, but if others still experience the problem let me know and I&amp;#39;ll have another look.
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In my &lt;a href=&quot;/unconditional_benefits_now_time_smash_cosy_consensus&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;last post&lt;/a&gt; I set out what I considered to be the three necessary reforms to create a more equitable society - Land Value Tax (or &amp;quot;The Single Tax&amp;quot;), Citizen&amp;#39;s Income and Ownership for All.
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In the comments, &lt;a href=&quot;http://lpuk.org/pages/libertarian-party/leadership.php&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Tim Carpenter&lt;/a&gt;, Head of Policy at the Libertarian Party UK had &lt;a href=&quot;/unconditional_benefits_now_time_smash_cosy_consensus#comment-2237&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;several objections&lt;/a&gt; that I would like to address:
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;LVT can seem fine and dandy at the first off, but over time who decides the future value of your land?&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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Why does anyone need to decide the future value of your land? In any case, even if that were necessary the market does that anyway even at present - what people pay for a property reflects their view of what it&amp;#39;s worth into the future - they are, literally paying up front, to the previous owner, the rent for a number of years into the future. I agree there are issues with a &amp;quot;100% Land Tax&amp;quot; where the community attempts to collect 100% of the rent (as I and other geo-libertarians would advocate). This would make the capital land value tend toward zero and how would you know whether it&amp;#39;s moving up or down over time? Well, the answer I believe is that it would trade at a discount or premium reflecting the buyer&amp;#39;s and seller&amp;#39;s view of whether the &amp;quot;passing rent&amp;quot; (ie the LVT bill) was set too high or too low.
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;It is fraught with risks, opportunities for corruption and chaos. If you think compulsory purchase was bad...&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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As I understand it several of the big RICS member firms have discussed this and have proposed a valuation regime that they would be comfortable bidding for and would expect to be able to handle things like appeals. The Oxfordshire pilot study showed that on average there was only a need to value about one site in ten - ie that that many nearby sites would share the same land value. And there are developing ever more sophisticated data and models for modelling things like &amp;quot;landvaluescape&amp;quot; and how it changes in reaction to things like new infrastructure.
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I only don&amp;#39;t believe it is as daunting a task as taxing incomes in the multitude of ways we currently do.
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;If CBI is only half what is needed to live on, then surely we will still need welfare.&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/07/basics_of_britain.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Joseph Rowntree report I mentioned&lt;/a&gt; included a lot of things that go much further than the &amp;quot;basics needed to survive&amp;quot; (and the headline figure of £13,400 was &amp;quot;pre-tax&amp;quot;. Not that I claim that would halve the bill. However the removal of the deadweight loss created by the other taxes that would be repealed, and the ending of subsidies, particularly on agricultural land and other tariffs on the necessities of life would make them cheaper. Two ways to be wealthier - have more money or make everything you need cheaper. As Frank Gallagher in &amp;quot;Shameless&amp;quot; says &amp;quot;Make poverty history; cheaper drugs now!&amp;quot;
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;Removing the minimum wage is fine but be under no illusion, the CBI will be factored into that wage (or lack of).&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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But, first, they would also be factoring in the lack of payroll taxes and income taxes - they&amp;#39;d have nearly 40% more in their &amp;quot;wage bill&amp;quot; to play with in many cases. Second, the CBI has two purposes in my mind - one of them is to give people enough to survive, just, day to day, but the intentional beneficial effect of that is that people have a cushion that empowers them to say &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; to a coercive deal from an employer. If the marginal benefit from working x hours for y pay is not worth it and you know you can survive until you get another, hopefully better, offer, this changes the balance of power between employer and employee. And, because it is the same for all workers, and not just the ones currently stuck in the benefits trap, the employers are more likely to have to listen and produce decent remuneration. Though I do concede that there would be hundreds of thousands of currently civil servants in the job market to depress wages...:)
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;It will be no solution to poverty AFAICT and your assertion that it would eradicate x y or x is not explained. I think parish provision is an interesting one, but frankly, look at places like S Wales and you will find that parishes will have little or no wealth creation so no money to spend on their army of dependants - central funding will be needed in precisely the places where people say it causes problems of unconditionality - for once the parish is spending other peoples&amp;#39; money the problems are right back with you again.&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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However, the LVT is more likely to move economic activity to areas where companies, and employees, and therefore also companies as employers, will pay less tax, which is turn will raise the economic activity in poorer areas and tend to level out regional disparities of economic activity. It cannot be any worse than the current situation where some regional economies make up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/06/map_of_the_week_public_spendin.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;more than half of their regional GDP&lt;/a&gt; from state handouts and subsidies to individuals and businesses.
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;As another person has mentioned, the mutualist company can occur NOW. What is to change here? The fact that it does not happen now should either make you ask what stops it legally/financially or regulatory OR that it is actually a factor of how humans are socially, in that it takes certain individuals the gumption to kick start a company (and that is NEVER to be underetimated) and once they do so, why would they then let a whole load of strangers take just as much out of it as he/she does?&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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I certainly don&amp;#39;t underestimate the setting up of a company. I have been an employer for precisely one month in my life and it was a bloody nightmare. But it would certainly be less troublesome if I was not burdened with all those damn tax calculations! But again, I refer the honorable gentleman to the answer I gave a moment ago - the &amp;quot;cushion&amp;quot; that empowers the employee to say &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; a bit more; to hold out for a better share of the total returns to a business. This of course goes to the core of mutualism as I see it, as opposed to the anarcho-capitalist type of libertarianism. Mutualists believe that the current capitalist system is lop-sided, &amp;quot;toxic&amp;quot; and that it is itself a coercive and damagingly hierarchical system. Empowering labour to hold out for a better deal, making use of new corporate forms like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencapital.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;limited liability partnerships&lt;/a&gt; and so on, will accelerate this change.
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...and finally...
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Tim: &amp;quot;&lt;font color=&quot;#333399&quot;&gt;Monetary reform and changes to fiat issuance will not happen by itself. The problem is coming up with something to replace it that actually works. I have seen many attempts and none appear to work or are just a cover operation for hatstand ideas like &amp;quot;social credit&amp;quot;.&lt;/font&gt;&amp;quot;
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As I think I said in response to another comment, I&amp;#39;m actually quite agnostic about how monetary reform should happen and what direction it should take. Personally I like the Hayek idea of fully privatised commercially competing currencies. I am told that the legislation actually already exists to allow commercial &amp;quot;complementary&amp;quot; currencies run by corporations. Air miles, Nectar and Kit-Kash are but early examples.
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But consider this - if you collect 100% land rent and the capital value of land falls towards zero, the structure of the money system is bound to change - a large proportion of our broad money is lent into existence to pay for land in the form of mortgages. At the very least banks are going to need to have to adjust to that.
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Actually I believe the real question is what lengths states will go to to prevent what I see as inevitable change if we allowed it. I haven&amp;#39;t played there for a long time, and the hype about it seems to have died down a lot, but &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://secondlife.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Second Life&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://secondlife.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Kiva&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; are but a glimpse of what might be to come.
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&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, I presume I&amp;#39;ve been linked to in a discussion on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lpuk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&amp;amp;t=918&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Libertarian Party forums&lt;/a&gt; (link will only work if you are a member and registered on their forums).  And that, now they have closed the public forums that were accessible to non-members, I am unable to see what people are saying.  I believe that none of these three policy areas step outside the bounds of libertarianism.  In fact that they address more inequities that create coercive human relationships than, say, anarcho-capitalist flavours of libertarianism do.  It would be nice to get the jist of what you are saying, if anything, over there! &lt;span class=&#039;read-more&#039;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jockcoats.org.uk/response_some_comments_unconditional_benefits&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;read&amp;nbsp;more&amp;nbsp;&amp;raquo;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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They&amp;#39;ve been rumbled. The very shaky foundations of the entire house of cards have been exposed. The vast fraud against lower and middle income households that is the financial system, and, ultimately, government has been laid bare. Surely everyone can now see that? No? That doesn&amp;#39;t surprise me. Just as there was very little outcry in this country when former Governor of the Bank of England &lt;a href=&quot;/biggest_frauds_go_unpunished_and_we_are_all_victims&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Eddie George&lt;/a&gt; revealed that their commission on independence in 1997 was not just to maintain an inflation target but also to see to it that house prices continued to rise by keeping money as cheap as possible for as long as possible.
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In my opinion, whatever the consequences in the short term, it would be better if Fannie and Freddie were allowed to die gracefully even as their lives have been a disgraceful deceit. What have they done that is so bad that a normally forgiving person like me would be calling for the corporate equivalent of the death penalty? The seemingly innocent practice of underwriting mortgages is in fact a key factor in the creation of the property price bubble and in the transfer of wealth from poorer to richer.  Yes that&amp;#39;s right, redistribution the wrong way!  Without that underwriting the front line lenders would have been more cautious in their lending stabilising prices and not stretching households to the financial limits just to have a home over their heads.
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			&lt;em&gt;Josiah Stamp, Liberal politican, Chairman of the Midland Bank in the&lt;br /&gt;
			1920s and reputedly second wealthiest man in Britain in his lifetime:&lt;/em&gt;
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			&amp;quot;Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again.
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			However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.  But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits.&amp;quot;
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Oh, what a clever idea, you still say perhaps - after all, it surely helps more people buy a home. And that&amp;#39;s what Fannie and Freddie were supposed to do, by offering an implicit government guarantee people who would previously not have been considered for a mortgage got to join in the jamboree. And that&amp;#39;s the problem - a government guarantee. They, the state, have pledged an eye-wateringly close to unlimited amount of money, that&amp;#39;s *our* money of course, to make us have to pay more for our homes to the banks who effectively create the credit in the first place and line the pockets of landowners. And this in a nation that is still so relatively empty as to have marginal land in abundance so other land values should still be relatively stable other things being equal.
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But those other things are not equal, the cycle of lending inflates the broad money supply so over time reducing the value of the asset that very system conspired to make you pay so much for in the first place. And all this is only possible because of the enclosure of land, the privatisation of the entitlement to and collection of the value that the whole of the community creates at any particular unique location.
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At best, Fannie and Freddie are shining witnesses to the power of unintended consequences - I am sure the New Dealers whose brainchild they were earnestly believed they were helping: at worst, they can be seen as part of a conspiracy between government and those who own the financial system and its institutions to transfer vast amounts of wealth from Average Joe to the richest few. Add the evidence of Eddie George that in the UK the past ten years&amp;#39; property price boom was deliberate though unannounced political policy and it&amp;#39;s harder to rule out conspiracy over cockup.
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Either way, Fannie and Freddie should go, and go quickly, and, as they say, be buried in a closed casket to boot. It will unleash financial turmoil of unprecedented ferocity I am sure. But it will be the herald of death to a fundamentally flawed, corrupt and downright fraudulent system that continues to benefit a tiny few at the expense of the vast majority. I was introduced to a new, to me, term at the weekend, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Kondratiev wave&lt;/a&gt;. Looking at the vast amounts of money involved in the current potential crisis, the fact that the asset bubble is bursting as production is also slowing and there&amp;#39;s ever decreasing amounts of money available to maintain existing economic activity, and I&amp;#39;m beginning to wonder if Kondratiev wasn&amp;#39;t on to something.
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This is a huge opportunity. An opportunity to reinvent a stable monetary system more suited to a globalised world of trade and increasing aspiration amongst a whole new world of consumers, a world in which, of necessity, economic activity is shifting relatively away from the west, from the existing reserve currency and its close followers and towards the east and the global mass of population.
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And that, dear reader, is why I am likely to die waiting. An opportunity those who wield power would prefer us to miss.
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 <description>&lt;p&gt; Sir Josiah Stamp, reckoned at the time to be the second wealthiest person in Britain, sometime Bank of England director, Chairman of the LMS railway and Liberal economist, winning a 1912 prize for an essay about taxing the &amp;quot;unearned increment&amp;quot; instead of incomes, is quoted as saying: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right&quot;&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://www2.jockcoats.org.uk/files/u1/Josiah_Stamp.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;10&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; align=&quot;right&quot; /&gt; &amp;quot;Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money .&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Particularly apt this week I should say.  You see, what&amp;#39;s been happening this week should make most of us take to the streets in demonstration and revolt; if only we understood our unwitting role in the gargantuan pyramid selling fraud that&amp;#39;s been playing out in global financial markets this last few weeks and who, ultimately, is going to pay in the fall out. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Follow the money trail...&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; The economy needs money to function just as we need air to breathe.  The more we produce, the more money we need circulating to consume that production.  That production is our collective creditworthiness - the measure of how much wealth we are all creating and swapping with each other.  We trust the money that facilitates those swaps because we are told to.  The green/blue/purple crinkly stuff, of which there exists less than £50 billions&amp;#39; worth, says on it &amp;quot;I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of...&amp;quot; as that most potent national icon, the monarch, smiles benignly up at us in reassurance. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; So, do we have a benign national institution that keeps watch on economic activity and creates the currency to match our national creditworthiness?  Do we hell.  We have an Old Lady that the monarch once gave a monopoly to to create money and sell it back to him who can no longer be bothered to do the job and has subcontracted it to private banks.  She keeps an eye on all the economic activity and so on, she has all the figures and tools needed to do as good a job as anyone else, but instead of actually creating money into productive circulation she lets that cartel of private bankers know how much she thinks should exist by telling them the rates of interest they should be charging for actually lending the money into circulation.  They create nothing except numbers.  Pixels on a computer screen that we all trust we will be able to turn into those &amp;quot;promises to pay&amp;quot; whenever we need it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; These bankers, being a conservative breed at heart, not wishing to lose their investment, look to lend to those most likely to pay them back with interest.  But even making such a risk calculation based on the prospective borrower&amp;#39;s ability to repay, they look also to take some security, something they can sell to get as much of their money back as they can if the borrower finds he can no longer repay.  And what&amp;#39;s the safest security?  Safe as houses?  Well, houses of course, or more particularly the land value it sits on (a house, like any other capital good depreciates and needs constant maintenance to hold its value). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; There&amp;#39;s very little, in the ordinary course of things, less likely to go south in value than land, except perhaps very small specialized bits of land like gold and other rare natural resources.  Keeping those rates low makes the money borrowed more affordable.  More people think they can afford it.  The banks lower the interest cover they&amp;#39;re prepared to take by increasing the multiples of income people can borrow.  Still the insatiable economy needs more money circulating, so the banks, usually not the front liners with big reputations to keep, go chasing more and more marginal borrowers.  The house price/land value increases make people who don&amp;#39;t own nervous that they never will if they wait as prices rise, so the age old human natural inclination to want to &amp;quot;own&amp;quot; the place you live in takes over and you stake more than you could comfortably afford in less benign economic conditions on getting your foot on that housing ladder. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://www2.jockcoats.org.uk/files/u1/penguins.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Penguins from PeterVermont @ flickr&quot; title=&quot;Penguins from PeterVermont @ flickr&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;10&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; /&gt; The more front liner banks are however prepared to back up this borrowing with &amp;quot;managed risk&amp;quot; packages of these loans.  But when the Old Lady gets a bit nervous about inflation at the centre of this web and decides money should be more expensive and the cartel operators duly follow suit, whilst those of us with enough simply cut down on spending now to afford the higher interest payments, those of us who were only just able to afford to get on the ladder at the lower rate now find it impossible and stop paying.  The image from &amp;quot;Life in the Freezer&amp;quot; comes to mind of chin-strap penguins trying to get ashore on a south Atlantic rocky crag where the unfortunates that only slightly mistime the wave scrabble about and fall back into the thrashing ocean. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; The security, the house and its land value, takes a while to turn into liquid cash, the buyers of the &amp;quot;managed risk&amp;quot; packages that back up those loans see the prospect of getting the yield they expected diminishing and tighten their belts.  This whole house of cards rests on every card in it honouring their obligations every night and so suddenly the Old Lady awakes, reaches over to the button that is all it takes to create credit into the system and rather than the private bankers see their stockholders losing their investment the retail debts of dubious morality they marketed and created are magically covered. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Excuses, excuses...&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Of course the banks and monetary authorities give out all sorts of excuses that, because of the mystery they have created of smoke and mirrors and the awe with which we will believe the sort of people who are obviously so brilliant they merit multi-million pound a year bonuses and management fees, us mere mortals swallow out of fear of recession, slump, unemployment, meltdown... &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; The &amp;quot;sub-prime&amp;quot; market is made up of feckless folk who really should have known better that they really couldn&amp;#39;t afford to borrow.&lt;/em&gt;  They fail to explain that it is being relentlessly sold to them through aggressive  marketing and in the hype that they might miss the bandwagon if they don&amp;#39;t sacrifice now to get on the rapidly rising housing ladder, rising of course because of the amounts of money they&amp;#39;ve created over the past few years chasing the monopoly of desirable locations.  Not only are these sub-prime chin-straps cast back into the tumultuous briny, but they are pulled down by the under-tow.  Not only have they lost their home, and whatever credit rating they had achieved, but now they probably also owe money on something they no longer own.  They are not just back at square one, but off the game board for a good long while. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; The liquidity injection protects the creditworthiness of the pound in your pocket.&lt;/em&gt;  They fail to tell you that its creditworthiness has only been compromised because the subcontractors that actually create the vast majority of it took bad investment decisions in the pursuit of ever more profit for their shareholders. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; That we&amp;#39;re all protected because we are all, or nearly all, shareholders in banks through our pension funds.&lt;/em&gt;  They fail to tell us that the vast majority of non-housing financial assets are held by a tiny minority of the wealthiest people on the planet and that the bottom third or so of folk, including, most likely, the hapless sub-prime mortgage market, do not own any financial assets.  Besides, the propensity in the UK for pension funds to hold bank shares comes at least in part because through all the special privileges involved in creating our money stock out of nothing and the protectionism in having a sugar daddy in the form of a lender of last resort that will ensure the whole thing doesn&amp;#39;t go down the tubes they are usually a pretty dependable investment. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; That we need to prevent a run on equity markets becoming a rout.&lt;/em&gt;  Of course they tend not to point out that the underlying business prospects of the companies facing huge write-downs in their values because of the &amp;quot;dash to cash&amp;quot; to shore up the credit markets have usually not changed.  That these values are being slashed by large volume gamblers for whom the shares in those companies are little more than poker chips to buy and sell, swap into other assets and so on in technical trading, game theory scenarios and arbitraging between all but unrelated markets. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And that, dear reader, is why the collective noun for bankers is &amp;quot;wunch&amp;quot;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;strong&gt;A call to arms...&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; This kind of money system, based on debt and causing the very asset price bubble that brings about its own collapse is first and foremost unsustainable.  Every time there&amp;#39;s an expansion it&amp;#39;s the big players, those on the inside of that smoke and mirror fraternity, that gain by skimming off the cream from their ever increasingly precarious plate spinning, and those on the outside, with everything to lose, who get dumped on.  And our governments collude in this iniquity. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; If it weren&amp;#39;t for this last fact, that it&amp;#39;s always the little man that loses in this, I&amp;#39;d be hoping and praying this weekend that the whole house of cards does collapse this time and we are forced to find a different way to monetize our national creditworthiness for the future without creating these artificial asset bubbles and mountains of debt. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Yet there are a couple of ways to use the current turbulence to effect far-reaching changes so that our money system becomes more stable.  Depending largely on whether you view the world from the market or the state point of view: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; We could on the one hand break the link between the state and the real creators of credit, the commercial banks, by refusing to be the lender of last resort, by completely privatising currency so that what and whose money we use and trust most will be down to which of the commercial banks are best managed.  Instead of Dollars and Yen, Pounds and Euro we might use Barcs or Honkers, BOSses, AirMiles or CitiCash right around the globe.  Those with a favour for market solutions would point out that this removes the state protectionism, removes trade tariffs (by abolishing national currencies in favour of competing, global, commercial currencies) and crucially does not involve anything that could be connected to government. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right&quot;&gt; &lt;img src=&quot;http://www2.jockcoats.org.uk/files/u1/Douglas2.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; hspace=&quot;10&quot; vspace=&quot;10&quot; width=&quot;200&quot; height=&quot;236&quot; align=&quot;right&quot; /&gt; On the other hand, for those of a more statist constitution, or perhaps just too timid to sever the ties between crown and the &amp;quot;coin of the realm&amp;quot;, there&amp;#39;s another possibility - the C H Douglas style national credit authority.  Controlled by statute rather than by government, such a body would do as the Bank of England does now in monitoring economic indicators and deciding whether there should be more or less money in the system to cope with the economic climate.  But instead of subcontracting the power of new money creation to a cartel of commercial interests, they would create all new money and be the lender of first resort to a banking system reduced to brokering loans between people who have cash to invest and people who need that investment.  The national credit authority makes a profit as it does so on the lending of newly created money that costs it little or nothing to produce that can then go to its shareholders - the people of Britain, as a dividend, or our representative, the government, as money to spend. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; And we could begin to make this latter change right now, with no legislation needed and no expenditure required.  Instead of buying back all the liquidity central bankers have put into the system these past few days when markets stabilize, they could just increase the reserve requirements by the same amount, forcing the commercial banks to keep the debt-free money and restricting the new debt-money they can create on the back of it.  Over time this reserve requirement could be increased until the majority of money is created by the national credit authority in response to economic growth needs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; But in order for there to be a will for such a thing to happen, people need to understand how skewed towards those who already wield wealth and power the current protectionist system is, and who loses...us.  Nearly all of us.  So why aren&amp;#39;t we marching?  We aren&amp;#39;t even daring to discuss it.  We&amp;#39;re accepting that the situation financial markets are in today is because of feckless borrowers wanting to better themselves beyond their means.  And that we all have to take a bit of pain for the irresponsibilities of our fellow borrowers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;strong&gt;And &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;THAT&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;, dear reader, is also why the collective noun for bankers is &amp;quot;wunch&amp;quot;.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: right&quot;&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;Technorati Tags: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technorati.com/tag/credit%20crunch&quot;&gt;credit crunch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technorati.com/tag/debt%20money&quot;&gt;debt money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technorati.com/tag/fiat%20money&quot;&gt;fiat money&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 10pt&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technorati.com/tag/monetary%20reform&quot;&gt;monetary reform&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
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